tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post5320675389791327159..comments2024-02-12T16:32:03.714-08:00Comments on Book of Kells: Submit Like a Man - Part 2 of Yesterday's Request QuestionKelli Russell Agodon - Book of Kellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01798460634708905783noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-21584084882875039012011-06-04T08:43:48.337-07:002011-06-04T08:43:48.337-07:00Jennifer,
If asked to send more work, I'd def...Jennifer,<br /><br />If asked to send more work, I'd definitely acknowledge you were asked to in the cover letter. If you know the name of the editor who asked you, I'd suggest to use that too. <br /><br />It can be as easy as-- As suggested by Molly Jones, I'm sending new work for you consideration. <br /><br />But yes, if they ask for more work, send it and yes, remind them they asked! Good question!Kelli Russell Agodon - Book of Kellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798460634708905783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-18747599037525274452011-06-03T09:18:13.970-07:002011-06-03T09:18:13.970-07:00I just got one of these letters with an invitation...I just got one of these letters with an invitation to send work to a journal again and I'm wondering - does one mention something in the cover letter about the fact that the journal asked for new work in a future reading period, something along the lines of "as suggested, I am sending you some new work for your consideration" blah blah blah or is it best to keep the cover letter pro forma? (I'm guessing it varies by editor, but what's your sense of this?)<br /><br />Thanks for any feedback from any direction on this.Jenniferhttp://www.magpiedays.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-71204411351231542662011-03-07T11:46:22.299-08:002011-03-07T11:46:22.299-08:00Nancy-- Good question. I think sometimes women mu...Nancy-- Good question. I think sometimes women must think that and sometimes they think "I don't want to intrude" or "I don't want to submit too soon." <br /><br />I'm sure there are so many reasons, but seeing how differently men resubmit when we ask them vs. women makes me worry that women are trying to be the "good girls" and that idea is failing them very much.<br /><br />Renee-- You are so not the only one who thinks like this and does this. Definitely don't wait a year! ;-)Kelli Russell Agodon - Book of Kellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798460634708905783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-27941049856831220712011-03-07T11:20:34.128-08:002011-03-07T11:20:34.128-08:00Wow, i am so glad i read this post! i am one of th...Wow, i am so glad i read this post! i am one of those women writers who doesn't submit again for a year (sometimes more than a year) later! i always thought i would be irritating the editor to resubmit again any sooner than thatReneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16193589124708203445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-20831408630605991512010-08-18T15:00:48.680-07:002010-08-18T15:00:48.680-07:00I wonder if women sometimes think "I'll r...I wonder if women sometimes think "I'll re-submit when I've written new work" and men send other material already written. Do we see re-submission as about sending other writing or our next/new writing.... Nancy P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-68112324803355039302010-08-14T10:47:10.118-07:002010-08-14T10:47:10.118-07:00P.S.
RE: You've got me questioning my own ...P.S. <br /><br />RE: You've got me questioning my own masculinity, now...<br /><br /><br />Shawnte - your comment made me smile.Kelli Russell Agodon - Book of Kellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798460634708905783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-64604266468984838632010-08-14T10:46:02.321-07:002010-08-14T10:46:02.321-07:00Thanks everyone!
And I'm glad this post stir...Thanks everyone! <br />And I'm glad this post stirred the pot a little bit. I think it's good to talk about this.<br /><br />I'm going to do a follow-up post on this, but did want to acknowledge Jessie's comment that is does vary from editor to editor. That said, it's just been my experience that many women writers take just a bit too long to resubmit a journal as they don't want to impose. <br /><br />I personally struggle with this, which could be why I'm kind of passionate about it. I would err on the side of "too early" than "too late." Especially because you were asked to resubmit, it's not as if you're just pulling this out of the air. <br /><br />Thank you for all your comments. I really enjoyed reading this.<br /><br />more on this soon.Kelli Russell Agodon - Book of Kellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798460634708905783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-62344609949382555532010-08-13T15:05:36.694-07:002010-08-13T15:05:36.694-07:00Who is Ed Baker? He looks like that Travelocity gn...Who is Ed Baker? He looks like that Travelocity gnome. How nice that he decided to take time out from his world travels to comment on your blog. For the record, a lot of us out here in the blogsphere "dig" you. Thanks for this post. It's very informative and instructional for those of us finding our way in the poetry submission world. You are very generous to share your wealth of experience with us. <br /><br />BTW, my word verification is "pomat" which is short for "poetry matters", if you ask me.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16383460515774086072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-75989007373657822612010-08-12T09:31:26.680-07:002010-08-12T09:31:26.680-07:00Perfect~ And I often do take those good words to ...Perfect~ And I often do take those good words to heart, and submit shortly thereafter. Must be in touch with my inner male. . .<br /><br />= )R Piszk Broatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03925548850441716813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-39826192607896894492010-08-11T19:35:55.835-07:002010-08-11T19:35:55.835-07:00I love this, Kelli. Gives me the kick in the butt...I love this, Kelli. Gives me the kick in the butt I need!Wendy Wisnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15043973999410467754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-5733620355243132872010-08-11T14:39:01.526-07:002010-08-11T14:39:01.526-07:00I agree with cause and effect — 100%. Lots of appl...I agree with cause and effect — 100%. Lots of applicable research to support your point about gender differences in response to "not quite rejection." Negative self-talk takes over sometimes and keeps us stuck. Overthinking for sure. I'm going to borrow from you and put on my blog with details of research next week. Sounds like you'd be OK with that.<br />Judy TingleyIntelligent Women Onlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06572018068389360340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-53055887021411830402010-08-11T11:24:04.135-07:002010-08-11T11:24:04.135-07:00OMG..this is so true...I find myself holding back ...OMG..this is so true...I find myself holding back in order to not be annoying..kristy bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03831806047965186923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-52752261076101664442010-08-11T08:25:07.782-07:002010-08-11T08:25:07.782-07:00Damn. Guess I won't be sending my "Frog ...Damn. Guess I won't be sending my "Frog Story: an Epic of Boyhood in 36 Cantos" to you now. . . .David Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06448278560900184834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-59952374561718697682010-08-10T20:47:26.187-07:002010-08-10T20:47:26.187-07:00Loved this. Rushing off to re-check all rejection ...Loved this. Rushing off to re-check all rejection emails NOW.Nic Sebastianhttp://verylikeawhale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-81062500624660220522010-08-10T11:21:27.706-07:002010-08-10T11:21:27.706-07:00LOL – the commotion I hear must be writers running...LOL – the commotion I hear must be writers running to their therapists. Good post!<br /><br />And why am I not surprised you have an <i>almost</i> New Yorker note. Here’s my challenge… don’t let another year go by without resubmitting to them. I can see your work in them someday (but only if you send it).Michael A. Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015233939646285069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-15963140749376830662010-08-10T11:09:19.924-07:002010-08-10T11:09:19.924-07:00Good advise but I think it really does vary from e...Good advise but I think it really does vary from editor to editor. I have gotten to the point where when I send a note saying we like your work I advise we will look at more after 30 days but not before.<br /><br />I've had other editors tell me that they want to see more work but not until the next reading period at the earliest which usually does mean 6 months or a year later!Jessie Cartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13181286764480973423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-19019955164263900322010-08-10T08:42:43.108-07:002010-08-10T08:42:43.108-07:00You've got me questioning my own masculinity, ...You've got me questioning my own masculinity, now...because my reaction when editors say they'd like to see more of my work, usually falls more on that "cautious over-thinking" side of the fence.<br /><br />So thanks for posting this. I will learn from it and take those comments more seriously, from now on.<br /><br />Oh, and another big thanks for starting my day off with a great laugh, by pointing out:<br /><br />"anyone who got to this blog because they googled "submit like a man" - you are probably very disappointed right now"<br /><br />HA!Shawnte Orionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00900779630992399799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-32630715481454797292010-08-10T07:54:27.693-07:002010-08-10T07:54:27.693-07:00I NEVER submit to an editor/magazine who reacts wi...I NEVER submit to an editor/magazine who reacts with such a simplistic/trite/standard<br />message back to me.<br /><br />I submitted a book in 1972 to John Martin<br /><br />he wrote me: ""very interesting. We WANT to see your NEXT book."<br /><br />I went and continue to so do go elsewhere and tend towards those who "dig" what I do.<br /><br />rejection is never an issue. and,<br />I am not responsible for any editor's/person's understanding or intelligence.<br /><br /><br />your conclusion is a very hasty generalization and well non-sensical "political correctness"<br /><br />how I got to your site? I just don't know.<br /><br /><br />editors tend to lean/nod towards their own biases and club...Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-39729360319999306662010-08-10T07:45:32.544-07:002010-08-10T07:45:32.544-07:00Nice post, Kelli. Thanks.
I'm with Kathleen--...Nice post, Kelli. Thanks.<br /><br />I'm with Kathleen--I usually assume that they mean in the next reading period, but I now realize that if the journal reads year-round, I should get those poems into the mail in a month.Joannie Stangelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06006768246992875405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-58242763988875967162010-08-10T06:35:10.344-07:002010-08-10T06:35:10.344-07:00This is good to know. Generally, I do resubmit, b...This is good to know. Generally, I do resubmit, but not right away. I always thought this meant "during our next reading period." Hmmm. And when we sent those letters at RHINO, that's what we usually meant, unless we specified otherwise--saying "before the end of this reading period." Yeesh, I let some opportunities pass by! Thank you.Kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559881249054540947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37627577.post-74933183708739676042010-08-10T06:03:56.494-07:002010-08-10T06:03:56.494-07:00Wow, Kelli, how did you SO EXACTLY hear what goes ...Wow, Kelli, how did you SO EXACTLY hear what goes on in my head?!?Elizabeth Austenhttp://elizabethausten.orgnoreply@blogger.com